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07 February 2010 @ 02:52 pm
Summary of the Secrets of Fringe video for "Jacksonville"  
So people who couldn't access the Hulu video in this post were asking for a summary/description of what the producers said so I decided to write one up and post it here.

If anything's not clear, let me know. I ended up transcribing pretty much verbatim most of the middle/end because I thought it important how they worded those particular parts. Also I italicized parts that really stuck out to me personally. Hope this helps!

- the producers briefly go over Walter's balance-between-the-two-universes theory (all of which is basically explained in the ep itself)

- they talk about Newton's plan and how Newton didn't realize that another builidng would have to go back over to his side when he pushed a building into our side (the producer says that Newton is "still figuring out the parameters" of all this parallel universe/crossing over stuff)

- the producers joke about the combination 5-20-10: "If you add the numbers and multiply by pi, and then divide by the sum of the numbers in Lost, you may get an answer...it may be the date of the season finale"
--> question is asked "Can you at least confirm that it's a Thursday in May?" and the producer says "Uh, on our side...maybe not on the other side"

- On Activating Olivia: "we have said from the beginning that Olivia is someone who puts off her own life and emotional life in order to be a protector for the world which is quite possibly a consequence of being treated with cortexiphan as a kid, or because she was that kind of person already is why cortexiphan worked with her"

- he goes on in reference to the almost-kiss and the triggering of her abilities: "In allowing herself to be vulnerable to Peter and the possiblity of that relationship which is clearly like, developing, it triggered the heightened emotional state she needed for the cortexiphan to kick in, for her dormant ability to kick in"

- Other producer's words on it: "you know the whole concept of her feeling something she's never felt before, you know whether it's on an emotional relationship level or on a fear level, that was the key to that whole episode"

- On the future of Olivia and Peter: "You know we think that as people, you know you have a goal, you have an outcome, but it occurs in an unexpected way, and those are sort of the moments of magic, those are the really meaningful moments, and that's what we were shooting for. What this suggests for their relationship going forward, umm, you know there's other complicating factors, specifically at the end where she realizes Peter is not from here, it's a big complicating factor."

- Other producer goes on: "And she's carrying a secret now, you know which is very difficult to start a relationship on, where there's a level where one has a secret that is potentially devastating to the other." "And then of course there's the notion of whether or not he's ever going to learn the truth, which you know, will put another brick up between them"

- About Olivia seeing the glimmer on Peter: "That moment is going to weigh on Walter, it's a significant weight on his shoulders, and the way that they agree to deal with the situation, I think is really interesting and will intrigue the fans." "Headline is Walter sort of owes her an explanation right now. How's he going to explain or justify --" --> other producer continues: "bring her up to speed. there's a big key in that. That's a really great episode.'"

& that was it.


Thoughts? I was pleased to hear the producers talk about how whatever Olivia felt during the almost-kiss scene was something she'd never felt before and appears to be a combination of her fear of failing (of those people dying) with the vulnerability/intimacy she felt between Peter and her in that moment, where her guard just seemed to be completely down and she was letting him comfort her.

Also I wasn't sure exactly what they were talking about when they mentioned having a "goal" or "outcome" and it occurring in those unexpected moments of magic, meaningful moments, but since the clip played right after the heading of "the future of Peter and Olivia?" it suggested to me that there was the goal to have Olivia's abilities triggered in some unique way and it somehow developed in such a way that it happened at a key moment for Olivia and Peter as well (as it seems clearer than ever from the beginning of S2 that the writers have also been working towards a romantic "outcome" between those two).

The last part suggests that Olivia will be keeping this secret from Peter for at least an ep or two? I'm really really curious as to "the way that they agree to deal with the situation" as Walter really isn't on Olivia's good side at the moment.
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Its a Fraked-Up World: Fringe - Peterlizetm on February 7th, 2010 09:14 pm (UTC)
Its gonna be hell for her to keep it a secret. She respects Walter, even if she's pissed as hell with him right now, but she has a much more special bond with Peter. I dunno if she's the one that will ultimately tell him, but I can't see them keeping a secret for much longer. Too much tension for me the audience to handle!

Edited at 2010-02-07 09:14 pm (UTC)
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Its a Fraked-Up World: Fringe - Peter/Olivia [Here 4 You]lizetm on February 7th, 2010 09:50 pm (UTC)
My TV experience (which isn't much, I tell ya) leads me to believe that they might heading for a "Peter finds out through someone/something else, and gets pissed at all of them, angst ensues" .... but I really, really hope it doesn't come to that. Fringe is a clever show, with clever writers that I think we'll get the reveal in a way none of us imagined, even if it is Olivia telling him. And that thought, just makes me even more impatient for April. :)
Elena: Peter & Olivia - by your sidemileya on February 7th, 2010 08:10 pm (UTC)
the way that they agree to deal with the situation sounds indeed as if they agree to keep the secret at least for a while.

Wow. Peter will be so... so...

I don't even know what to say :(
kateshepard: Hair touch (PO)kateshepard on February 7th, 2010 08:31 pm (UTC)
Oh my god thank you SOOO Much for doing this <333

I really hope that they won't start building a relationship if Olivias keeping a secret from him AND
if they do i wont mind but still... I think that Olivia will be awkward around Peter for a while.
And I agree its going to be very interesting to see how walter deals with it
abeatlemother: Peter.Olivia 2abeatlemother on February 7th, 2010 08:38 pm (UTC)
Crap. :'(
I mean...perhaps she thinks not telling him would spare him grief? Although she should know that if she keeps it from him and she finds out another way, it'll just make him feel worse.
abeatlemotherabeatlemother on February 7th, 2010 08:39 pm (UTC)
and he* finds out another way
Its a Fraked-Up World: Fringe - Walter_Peterlizetm on February 7th, 2010 09:11 pm (UTC)
Thank you so much for summarizing it for those who couldn't see the video (damn Hulu!). I probably should've included one when I posted it ... I blame being exhausted after a long day at work, just wanted to share with people that the producers/writers are taking care of this ship very well. :)

I'm really really curious as to "the way that they agree to deal with the situation" as Walter really isn't on Olivia's good side at the moment. I dunno. Yes, she's really pissed off at Walter right now, but she has a soft side for him. She respects him, and he's helped her so much, that I think she will listen to him and at the very least give him the benefit of the doubt about this whole situation. But yes, I'm so curious as well; can't wait!
Sweet: Peter/Walter - sugangel7 on February 7th, 2010 09:32 pm (UTC)
No worries! I doubt anyone expected you to transcribe it when you posted it. But yes, thanks for directing our attention to that clip because it really does show that the producers/writers are taking care of this ship and that they're also invested in this romantic/emotional bond between Peter and Olivia and see it as significant/relevant to the greater storyline!

You do have a point about Olivia respecting Walter. That's sometimes hard for me to remember just because I've felt a tension between her and Walter ever since the revelation about the cortexiphan trials came out last season. But in the end, yes, she knows how much he's helped her and Fringe division (even if in the past alot of his work/experimentation led to alot of the stuff they're dealing with now) and she did save Walter's life in "Grey Matters" (although a good portion of that I think had to do with her bond to Peter).

Anyhoo, basically, yes it does seem only fair that she has to give him the benefit of the doubt and explain. As the producers said, Walter owes her an explanation and I'm sure Olivia wouldn't tell Peter that he's from another universe until she knows the full story of how that came to happen. And I have to give the writers the benefit of the doubt that they'll handle the fallout well and won't unnecessarily complicate or prolong Peter eventually finding out, since they have done such a fantastic job progressing all of this great Fringe parallel universe stuff (and P/O's relationship!)
Its a Fraked-Up World: Fringe - Peter/Olivia [B&W]lizetm on February 7th, 2010 09:53 pm (UTC)
I really hope it doesn't take them more than 2 or three episodes for this to happen. It seems we've been waiting FOREVER already!

although a good portion of that I think had to do with her bond to Peter
Oh yes, it was most definitely more her bond with Peter, and him pleading to her over the phone (every time I watch that scene my shipper's heart speeds up like a rocket lol) that prompted her to give in to Newton's deal. It helps that I read a really good fic dealing with it all. :P
Sweet: Olivia - Intense Bluesugangel7 on February 7th, 2010 10:12 pm (UTC)
I'm with you on the no more than 2-3 eps! I feel like they can't drag it out any longer than that because I think now that Olivia knows, it'll just be too hard for her to keep it a secret for long because Peter just knows her and reads her so well. And, as you and another person were saying in the comments above, Fringe is a clever show so I don't think they'll go the usual route of revealing things (and I think that TV commonplaces would dictate that a) Peter would find out from an external source and b) that it would be dragged out all the way to the season finale or the episode right before that).

Also, yes, his pleading to her over the phone just really gets me, and please please please direct me to this fic you speak of!

Its a Fraked-Up World: Fringe - Olivia [Sorrow]lizetm on February 7th, 2010 10:40 pm (UTC)
I really should be doing my HW instead of looking through fics, but here ya go. :)
andreawickedandcruel on February 7th, 2010 11:21 pm (UTC)
her feeling something she's never felt before,

this is all I care about tbh haha
fleurdepasse: peter&oliviafleurdepasse on February 8th, 2010 02:47 pm (UTC)
cant wait to see the episode in gemany, sometimes it is really hard for me to understand everything... but i also cant wait for season 3!!
But let me tell you something, these clifhangers are all the same shit: You wait for a conclusion for 6 month an then everything comes clear in the first 5 minutes of the new season...
I hope that they'll find a god way to disband the situation....
Mary   ~Friend to the Sprites~: Peter/Olivia Frozen Heads - by memarymc on February 8th, 2010 04:44 pm (UTC)
sugangel7, this time it really is you I love.


And speaking of love, I'm currently re-watching S1 (only at ep 5 though) and though I forget what happend at the end, I know Olivia couldn't tell John Scott she loved him when he was being all gooey and gushy in the romantic motel quickie...

And NOOOOO!! Holy crap, Olivia, you can't keep it a secret! I don't care WHAT Walter says, if you keep it a secret from Peter, that's SHAME ON YOU! Come OOOOOONNNNNNN!
Dinamanu4380 on February 13th, 2010 12:01 am (UTC)
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